Choosing your setup

NilName vs Daemonic

If you want Lunar routines on Windows, the choice is made for you: Lunar needs NilName Advanced. Daemonic makes sense for the rotations and bots in its addon catalog, such as Phoenix, Murlocs and LootRoute. If your routine runs on both, compare the game versions it covers and the full monthly bill, because the unlocker name settles neither.

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Lunar on Windows
Lunar's framework needs NilName Advanced, and Lunar access and projects are paid for separately.
Routine runs on both
Compare which game versions it currently supports and the whole bill, instead of the two unlocker prices alone.
Extra sessions
Daemonic sells tiers by how many copies run at once. Gotham's extra NilName sessions keep the original expiry date.

Which routines need NilName, and which need Daemonic?

Both are Windows unlockers: programs that let outside Lua routines use game functions normal add-ons can't. NilName (formerly NoName, usually shortened to NN) sells an Advanced unlocker tier and, separately, NilName Rotations. Its product directory lists Lunar and has older references to Baneto and GMR. Baneto is reported closed, and an old directory entry doesn't mean a product is still sold or included in NN's price. Lunar says plainly that its Windows framework needs NilName Advanced. NilNameNilNameLunarBlizzard

Daemonic's addon catalog, dated September 3, 2026, lists Phoenix, SYNQ, LootRoute, Murlocs, EpicSyncPro and BadRotations, each with its own scope and access terms. SYNQ supports both NilName and Daemonic, so that's one routine where you do get to choose the unlocker underneath. Check SYNQ's current requirements before buying either. DaemonicSYNQ

How much do NilName and Daemonic cost?

Daemonic is USD 25 for one session over 30 days, or USD 35 for two. A session is one copy running at a time. Rotations and bots cost extra. Its FAQ lets you share within the number of PCs or sessions you bought, so a second session buys another simultaneous copy. It doesn't buy you another addon. DaemonicDaemonic

Gotham, a reseller, lists NilName Advanced at $20 for one global session over 30 days from activation, or $14 for the China edition. It doesn't say which dollar, so I can't line that up against Daemonic's USD price. Extra sessions are $10 global or $7 CN and expire with the parent key. They don't add another 30 days. NilNameNilName

NN Rotations is a separate $10 Gotham add-on for each session you need it on, with no stated duration. Halenir also lists NN Advanced, but its offers don't say what period they cover. Neither listing adds up to a complete monthly bundle, and the old free Basic release isn't a confirmed stand-in for Advanced today. NilNameNilNameNilName

Which WoW versions do NilName and Daemonic support?

Neither publishes a full, current list of the game builds it supports. Daemonic advertises all expansions, but its addon catalog is more specific: Retail, TBC and MoP. That gap matters, because the unlocker supporting an expansion doesn't mean your rotation does. DaemonicDaemonicNilName

NilName makes broad expansion claims too, without a current version and region list. The live site returned 403 (access denied) when I checked, so some official details came from older indexed pages. Confirm the Windows requirements, exact WoW patch and region for the whole setup before paying. Lunar has a separate Mac product, but that doesn't make NN a Mac unlocker. NilNameNilNameLunar

How do payment and support work?

Daemonic takes Bitcoin directly and processes the order after one blockchain confirmation. Its reseller page still names WeaverX and Kitty Mafia, which tells you nothing about whether they have stock or deliver today. Setup and licence problems go to Daemonic's Discord; each addon developer supports its own product. NilName splits support: linked-license users go to Discord for routines, setup and Lua APIs, and to SimpleX (an encrypted messenger) for core crashes, accounts and payments. I couldn't find the actual SimpleX invite. DaemonicDaemonicNilName

Which one gets banned less?

Nobody can tell you from public data. NilName's cached homepage acknowledges users hit by Warden module fe5a4263 (Warden is Blizzard's anti-cheat), but its relative dates don't show how long recovery took. Public ban claims involving both products have since been disputed or narrowed. You can't build a comparative ban rate from that, and neither product has a matched record of outages and restorations I could use to measure update speed. NilNameCommunity reportDaemonic

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